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Shoot: Faking Candid

Lesson 14 from: Men's Portrait Photography

Jeff Rojas

Shoot: Faking Candid

Lesson 14 from: Men's Portrait Photography

Jeff Rojas

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14. Shoot: Faking Candid

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Shoot: Faking Candid

Same thing turned to the side for me again, so I don't want something that looks a little more just candid, right? I don't want to look like he's. Awkward, but that already made him feel awkward. Right? Okay, so we're gonna try to anyway, he's thinking about it. It's the other side. One, two, three. Perfect. Okay, so start from the first position. So top. Okay. One, two, three and move your arm down. Perfect. Okay, so you're kind of feeling upon your own arm there. So do me a favor and just kind of grabbed at the same time. Her fixed? Yeah, right. The perfect one. Perfect. Okay, do me a favor. So the other thing you have to worry about is again, stoney's arm position. We talked about being comfortable, so even through candid photography, he's a little uncomfortable in regards to what he's doing. But the second, it was literally said, cross your arms. Perfect cross arms, legs, twist pose again. Awesome. Just like that. Perfect. And cameras watching him feel comfortable. I know it's diff...

icult for you guys to see. But you can tell relative to where he feels comfortable next walking shots. Instead of trying instead of trying tio take candid photography and hoping somebody's gonna take a shot we're gonna take walking shot so this is general move this back sorry just so everyone can see I do a lot of candid photos with triangles and frames and what not but one of my favorite things to do is get people as they are natural and we talked about this investigation the shots how do you fake a candid photo regards still walking generally when somebody says can ever wear a jacket you know what? I'm gonna just go grab it sorry keith right over your shoulder what's that go to pose with jackets right? This is the point of this is that he's not a model he doesn't know what he's doing this is more or less what we want now stoning here's what I want you to do okay? That's your storytelling that's your jacket what I want you do is this is the point that I want to photograph you right here. Okay? This is more with actually right here we're the light faces. Okay? What I want you to do is move one step back what you step back two steps back walk forward okay, perfect, perfect and just chin up at me, chin down a tiny bit more and just eyes and just give me a tiny bit of a smile, smile wait go with that okay, so the first thing I wanna do is as azam faking a candid walk is everyone walks differently everyone everyone moves differently I have to figure out stoney and who he is right that's that's more or less the premise of my job somewhere I mentioned right there that's your marker okay, perfect! I'm gonna focus in on him first perfect okay, perfect and moved back to me two steps and walk forward from a one two he's like yeah he's modeling way so we can have your modeling try one more time he's trying way too hard try one more time to see what I want you to do is just so just it's like if you have your more seconds I going over your shoulder you feel more comfortable in that? Is it the blazer that's new and if you're like shooting time used for less before perfect stay there from perfect okay and try that one more time go ahead and back can't no more sexy walking one, two, three and perfect sexy walking thing at what point in the walk are you looking to hit that shot more or less as they're about to hit the point that I'm trying to photograph because amusing it's at seven one I have very much distance regard so what I'm photographing for for focus okay, so you're sexy walk needs to be a little a little tighter so here's what I want you to how about look over your shoulder again I'm not he's not a model step forward and look like somebody's calling yet opposite side yeah just like that perfect okay so walk first me want to throw awesome so the point of this is to get the candid photo watch the second to last shot just going to look like he's natural the stunning look like he's looking at somebody the stony look like what's happening in that shot if he was looking and he was looking at a little more confidence that's what I want that's less sexy stoney and more posed clean, concise tony that's what we want next thing I want to make sure is the center of sony is very very wide so what can we do? I could go ahead and have a move from the opposite side forty five degrees doing the same thing that's easy enough so I'm gonna have you walk to that same point from that angle over there first if you can hit my marker it's heavy right there perfect stay there from a let's make sure we're focusing a perfect okay step over forty five degrees from a perfect and move towards that like yep and looking over your shoulder perfect so if you guys are trying to photograph your people candidly and you're trying to show let's say displays over your shoulders and a little more confident and cool hide a stone. You look he's. Not faking he's. Not sexy walking anymore. He feels confident. I'm storytelling. I'm not saying watch this because this could be the same thing. Stoney, do me a favor. Stand there. Turned forty five degrees. Move one foot forward. Okay, put more weight on one up forward from you. Not forward to may. Right there. Perfect. Look over his shoulder turned that left your righthand shoulder towards your right children. Towards me. A tiny bit and look over your shoulder. That way. Perfect. Okay, wash difference between posing in directing houses like positioning. Is it really or my faking it what's happening? It's very, very stiff. So just by giving him an example, can you can you just move back? Can I take something concisely? I know what I want. I know the position that I want just kind of not manipulating. Okay? Manipulating. And if you live in him to get to do it, I want which is the left. But I want something that looks more confident, which looks like he's interesting and thought. And what he's looking at, I think the one on the left and I'm more comfortable saying that, okay? Other things you could do hand and shoulders um I'm having put that down for me so we don't have models yes go inside because I noticed the difference between the two the two images was one that where he looked more comfortable his leg was actually bit as though he's moving and the other we're both feet were flat on the floor so I mean, would it be a difference of like, okay just like stand on the toe of one foot like you're rocking forward so we could do the same thing I'm gonna have you do the same thing so you're gonna go ahead and move that forward like if you're taking a walk he's like this this goes back into telling him so uh toe on the floor heal up lean forward okay, look that way see he's not he's, not about this ghost point of he's not a model he's not he's, not in tune suit for me to make him feel more comfortable automatically look at the stiffness in his body regardless if I said toe up, what are you trying to get? This is why I try to do the candid shots because I'm not focused, so I know what I know it looks good on him I know that I want to go ahead and his body is tiny, but he doesn't need to know that he just needs to know the direction that I'm trying to go walk from there to there dare there look over your shoulder and that's that I know what I want I want that candid photo out of him but I'm in it for the purposes of this toe toe on the floor heal up lean forward right hand shoulder back directing versus posing okay face over to the side towards that camera perfect and pretend that you have jacket off your shoulder perfect awesome on dh click it still stoic there's not much that that's there I mean it takes somebody that has professional acting experience a lot of times so models are actors that's really all they are they're throwing things over there pretending something's happening there in the other they're in some other room we as normal people that are aren't professional models not physique but actual talent or the talent behind modeling we're not usedto pretending like unless you're weird like I am way we're just so inclined to seeing people do things naturally you know so when it comes to pose and can I see those last three images it didn't matter if I had imposed a leg like just tow up or what I was doing I was going to get something candid out of him because he looks comfortable you know if I look at that first photo and I was looking at wedding photography you know which one does he looked the most natural and fluid maybe I want a smile out of him maybe I made him laugh at that specific second those are things that you want to think about he's moving it could be a candid moment you can fake candid moments with men you know, I think a lot of times when it comes to women we already know that go to poses and what things are pretty and perfect and pretty I'm doing lindsay adler post right now I just really notice where I went um you know we know more or less where things look best guys all you want to do is get them who they are and what they're about andi what there showcasing his best as possible and then china accentuate certain features that they have for example I'm going to do sitting quickly can I borrow that stool was to go to man shot for any guy there you go can you do that go to man shot how would you normally sit at a bar perfect perfect awesome how you sit how would you say if you're at the gym tired? How about you going to do we're going to do a couple things can you put both they go two legs up it's it's a pain just like that perfect hands away hands more your science perfect just like that we're doing the craft shop I know what's happening man that's the night after the bar is getting in tonight okay so what are we seeing here? All my attention is leading towards this crotch right that's the first thing um what I can do is he has a go to hand post right which is just standing there perfect perfect and this is a point that not every single hand shot's gonna look asbestos possible my hands still kind of goes his crotch but at least it's blocked that's the first thing I don't want to see a man's crotch it's never anyone's crotch in a photo unless it's actually I meant for that not a good thing so lean in a tiny bit forearms on both here just kind of just slouch down a tiny bit just more perfect awesome uh turned towards may just like that perfect perfect now let's say that's the only way john if I could borrow that just for a second now let's say that's the only way my subjects comfortable is like crotch shot and that's it we talked about cropping before st that didn't happen one two three I looked again going it's after the bar one too perfect awesome let's go perfect am I staring at all the shots for you? Well it looks like your inebriated what am I staring at the triangle's there we talked about shapes before right the triangle in his arm his face I'm really not looking at his crotch regardless if it's an open crotch shot right I'm looking my eyes lead here they're looking down they're looking this way watch the difference of crop stay there same position no more drunk looking the foreign after before it after last one in this one okay because the contrast is in his hands in the darkest image and the centre football focus is here and the whole image my eye still need their regardless of what it is at least using some contrast his faces is still in perception of still looking there it's a lighter aspect has lighter arms this is what I'm looking at looking at different points in the photo but my eyes don't lead directly to the crotch that's the first thing okay next I'm also using his arms too thin him out right because he is a little wider than that but just being able to move his arms and a tiny bit actually widened narrows his his body and regard so what we perceive is his his side if you have a subject that isn't fin meaning if you do this I don't want you know what we'll marry bring that arm out ever so slightly perfect bring that hand back and drop your hand a tiny bit perfect just like that and I'm gonna do the same thing we did before I know it's weird that's the point perfect because it's still weird for you way fuse it is for me perfect okay hands over your perfect okay, and then bring that hand in ever so slightly bring it in elbow out. Perfect. Awesome! How does my subject? My subject? I keep seeing my service had a stony look in the boat on the right. How much wider is it just by being able to use? Even even though there's negative space, I'm still seeing extra bulge in this area that I don't necessarily need to see and just blocking that makes him look a little thinner. So, yes, negative space does help lots of subjects, but not every single subject needs negative space. In order to help them, you can use arms to hide attributes that you don't want shown which is why a lot of subjects wind up our sorry a lot of people can wear certain pieces and garments like suits just with contrast in the senate to direct your eye in certain areas. That's what we're doing with you in this specific instance, turn recite a slight bit difference. Imposing perfect, awesome and awesome. Thank you, sir. Okay, we need you to stop looking drunk. Perfect. How? Why? I just said look, he looks very, very, very wide because of his arms and has nothing to do with his shape, his body master, anything aside from his arms, his arms would give him that that extra if you want to call it that and that's not what we want we want to showcase is the best possible soon subjects like this what can we do? You know what can we do aside from arms and hiding subjects there what are other go to man poses how do you normally sit aside from this in your bar if you were talking to me how would you say okay, how about this leg out perfect turned this way forty five degrees just like that that leg on the on the bar itself on the opposite side of the bar the ring okay like that way a tiny bit more again for shortening and you get familiar with foreshortening but those you know those subjects who aren't see there you get a little leg right now for move that that me and a tiny bit more perfect can move that let's go move that like our tiny bit just both legs down you have little little legs never photograph of subjects legs towards the camera that's another thing as you're posing no elbows no needs no hands, nothing towards the camera it's gonna shorten everything else out perfect. Okay, don't you tell me as soon as you start doing this, um this stony look naturally taller, little by little stony starting to look taller I can see the last three four images together its like you're blossoming you mean like a little flyer? Aren't you like, look, he's growing up natural, his hair's starting to grow up? I mean, that's starting to make him look longer. So if sonny was short, I concert long getting his body's considering the length of the post, I say again, we're talking about posing men and we're talking about how to make men feel comfortable so again, I'm asking how he sits naturally, I didn't ask him to pose his hands that way he did it himself. He feels comfortable that way to be a favorite. You sit on the edge of the chair without falling off. Perfect. Okay, can you do exactly same perfect, awesome, perfect. And I want you to tell me how much taller he is starting to look as I'm starting to see him on the edge of a chair and now he's having to straighten up his back because if not he's gonna fall off little by little, I'm elongating his body just by moving him across the chair, moving him on the edge of the chair. I could go ahead and just along in him from toe to the top of his head using light. Obviously, because the border light that's on there is just kind of accentuating that way sorry for you guys not being able to see that

Class Materials

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Photographer's Style Guide for Men
Men's Posing Guid
Photoshop Black and White Presets
Adorama Gear Guid

Ratings and Reviews

caroline ross
 

I watched this class for free and am saving up to buy it. First of all confirmed! Sigma lens are nothing to be ashamed of and since I love my one main lens, Sigma I immediately felt a rapport. Then listening to the fascinating insights about men and their feelings when confronted by a lens and...what to do with folks who have shaved heads or a little large. Some of the tips were great! Adding a decoration on suit front like a flower or handkerchief, and how to get the suits looking FIT! and well, I plunged into man world and it was a super education. By day two I was amazed by Jeff's generosity. Basically all his experience, all his favorite lighting techniques and painstaking attention to detail. I would have to watch Day two zillions of times to actually be able to absorb all the scenarios and effects. Im going to buy some suit clips Jeff and clip a bunch of suits in back and front to gorgeous my male subjects out. Thank you again for a wonderful, wonderful class.

Lee Crow
 

I've taken a lot of photography training in the last couple of years. Jeff is outstanding. I didn't realize that this content would have such an impact on me. The lighting sections were the best I've seen and the psychological impact of us men having good photos is a wonderful subject to bring to light. The class is great. Jeff is great. CL is great.

MizUniverse
 

this course was worth every penny. Full of practical information and excellent demonstrations. Jeff needs to quit with the crotch comments though ..it was like ...really AGAIN? why are you so obsessed with saying crotch crotch crotch good God. Apart from THAT (which I think was just silly nerves) I really do recommend this class. Jeff is actually very very good. I admire his work. Thanks Jeff I learned a lot!!

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