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Rule of Odds

Lesson 94 from: Fundamentals of Photography

John Greengo

Rule of Odds

Lesson 94 from: Fundamentals of Photography

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94. Rule of Odds

Summary (Generated from Transcript)

The topic of this lesson is the Rule of Odds in photography composition.

Q&A:

  1. What is the Rule of Odds in photography?

    The Rule of Odds suggests that images are better when there is an odd number of subjects in the frame.

  2. Why does the instructor disagree with the Rule of Odds?

    The instructor believes that any number of subjects can make a good photograph and that there are other factors that make a photograph compelling.

  3. What are some examples of how the Rule of Odds can be applied?

    The instructor mentions that a solitary subject or three subjects in a frame can create strong photographs.

  4. What are the benefits of having two subjects in a photograph?

    Having two subjects can create a relationship between them and add interest to the image.

  5. Can four subjects make a good photograph?

    Yes, having four subjects can create symmetry and is still a reasonable number for a small group.

  6. Does the number of subjects in a photograph matter?

    The instructor argues that the number of subjects does not necessarily determine the quality of the photograph, as there are other factors that contribute to a good shot.

Next Lesson: Bad Composition

Lessons

Class Trailer
1

Class Introduction

23:32
2

Photographic Characteristics

06:46
3

Camera Types

03:03
4

Viewing System

22:09
5

Lens System

24:38
6

Shutter System

12:56
7

Shutter Speed Basics

10:16
8

Shutter Speed Effects

31:57
9

Camera & Lens Stabilization

11:06
10

Quiz: Shutter Speeds

07:55
11

Camera Settings Overview

16:12
12

Drive Mode & Buffer

04:24
13

Camera Settings - Details

10:21
14

Sensor Size: Basics

18:26
15

Sensor Sizes: Compared

24:52
16

The Sensor - Pixels

22:49
17

Sensor Size - ISO

26:59
18

Focal Length

11:36
19

Angle of View

31:29
20

Practicing Angle of View

04:59
21

Quiz: Focal Length

08:15
22

Fisheye Lens

12:32
23

Tilt & Shift Lens

20:37
24

Subject Zone

13:16
25

Lens Speed

09:03
26

Aperture

08:25
27

Depth of Field (DOF)

21:46
28

Quiz: Apertures

08:22
29

Lens Quality

07:06
30

Light Meter Basics

09:04
31

Histogram

11:48
32

Quiz: Histogram

09:07
33

Dynamic Range

07:25
34

Exposure Modes

35:15
35

Sunny 16 Rule

04:31
36

Exposure Bracketing

08:08
37

Exposure Values

20:01
38

Quiz: Exposure

20:44
39

Focusing Basics

13:08
40

Auto Focus (AF)

24:39
41

Focus Points

17:18
42

Focus Tracking

19:26
43

Focusing Q&A

06:40
44

Manual Focus

07:14
45

Digital Focus Assistance

07:35
46

Shutter Speeds & Depth of Field (DOF)

05:18
47

Quiz: Depth of Field

15:54
48

DOF Preview & Focusing Screens

04:55
49

Lens Sharpness

11:08
50

Camera Movement

11:29
51

Advanced Techniques

15:15
52

Quiz: Hyperfocal Distance

07:14
53

Auto Focus Calibration

05:15
54

Focus Stacking

07:58
55

Quiz: Focus Problems

18:54
56

Camera Accessories

32:41
57

Lens Accessories

29:24
58

Lens Adaptors & Cleaning

13:14
59

Macro

13:02
60

Flash & Lighting

04:47
61

Tripods

14:13
62

Cases

06:07
63

Being a Photographer

11:29
64

Natural Light: Direct Sunlight

28:37
65

Natural Light: Indirect Sunlight

15:57
66

Natural Light: Mixed

04:20
67

Twilight: Sunrise & Sunset Light

22:21
68

Cloud & Color Pop: Sunrise & Sunset Light

06:40
69

Silhouette & Starburst: Sunrise & Sunset Light

07:28
70

Golden Hour: Sunrise & Sunset Light

07:52
71

Quiz: Lighting

05:42
72

Light Management

10:46
73

Flash Fundamentals

12:06
74

Speedlights

04:12
75

Built-In & Add-On Flash

10:47
76

Off-Camera Flash

25:48
77

Off-Camera Flash For Portraits

15:36
78

Advanced Flash Techniques

08:22
79

Editing Assessments & Goals

08:57
80

Editing Set-Up

06:59
81

Importing Images

03:59
82

Organizing Your Images

32:41
83

Culling Images

13:57
84

Categories of Development

30:59
85

Adjusting Exposure

08:03
86

Remove Distractions

04:02
87

Cropping Your Images

09:53
88

Composition Basics

26:36
89

Point of View

28:56
90

Angle of View

14:35
91

Subject Placement

23:22
92

Framing Your Shot

07:27
93

Foreground & Background & Scale

03:51
94

Rule of Odds

05:00
95

Bad Composition

07:31
96

Multi-Shot Techniques

19:08
97

Pixel Shift, Time Lapse, Selective Cloning & Noise Reduction

12:24
98

Human Vision vs The Camera

23:32
99

Visual Perception

10:43
100

Quiz: Visual Balance

14:05
101

Visual Drama

16:45
102

Elements of Design

09:24
103

Texture & Negative Space

03:57
104

Black & White & Color

10:33
105

The Photographic Process

09:08
106

Working the Shot

25:29
107

What Makes a Great Photograph?

07:01

Lesson Info

Rule of Odds

Alright, here's a new one for my classes that I haven't talked about before, it's one that has been talked about because when I do talk about composition I do my research and I go out and see what other people say about composition, and this is one that I don't agree with, but I will tell you about it anyway. It's just good to be aware of, I think there are some things to talk about and think about when it comes down to the Rule of Odds, and this states that images are just better when you have an odd number of subjects in there. Let's explore how this may or may not work. If you have a solitary subject, I think that can make for a really strong photograph because it's very clear what your subject is, what's going on, and you get a good, nice close-up view of that subject. So for people, for animals, this works out really well. The next step is if you can't have one then you have three. Little secret note here, three is my favorite number, I love three, three is a great number. It's a ...

nice, small grouping that you can easily understand. It's not too big of group, you're not wondering how many, you just immediately pick it up and it's a small little group that we can all identify with, so I think images with three subjects are very strong, and so as far as the Rule of Odds goes, yes, I completely agree that three subjects in a frame can be very interesting and there's a lot of fun that you can have with three subjects in a frame, cuz there's a lot of ways that you can line them up and play with them. We saw, I think this one in one of the quizzes before, and so three subjects, ya, that's a nice playful number that can do a lot of things with it. Maybe my favorite shot with three subjects in it right there, alright, three's just a great way, there's a lot of things that you can do with it. I'm all for three, I love three, that's good, I really do. What about this? I took this early in the morning, and I like this shot, and I think a lot of people I've showed it to have really liked that shot, it's kinda a cute shot, and perfect as a test example here, a scientific test example. Now I did not have to Photoshop this. One of the cubs got up and left. So tell me, is this a better photograph than the one with four in it? If the Rule of Odds was true, three is better than four, then it should be better, but that big empty spot just seems to me a whole lot better when it's filled with four there, and so I don't believe any particular number is better than another number, but there are things that are different about versus two. When you have two you'll have a relationship potentially between the two. People will be lookin at one, lookin at the other. Are these friendly, are they not friendly together? Mom and cub, there's a nice relationship that's goin on. Have you ever seen penguins hold hands before? (class laughs) Alright, so there's a nice thing about two. Would this be better with a third one? I'm sorry, I think three would be a crowd in this couple here. (class laughs) I think two works perfectly good. I think two is a great number to have in a shot, so there's lots of examples where having two works really well in a shot, so that's why I don't believe in the Rule of Odds. I think one's good, I think two's good, I think three's good, I think four can be good. There's lots of different examples, but there is a different type of thing that's goin on when you have one to two. Are you bein fair to the two? Can you have four and have it be good? Absolutely, it's still a reasonable number. With four you can have symmetry, so there's that you can work with, so that's a good element that you can add in to having four. It's still a small enough group that you can easily keep track of what's going on. Now what about five? You can have five as well. Five gets to be a little bit more, six gets to be a bit more. At a certain point you start losing count, but one, two, three, four, five, and then it starts just becoming a larger group depending on how long you're studying that particular subject there, and then it just starts becoming a pattern unto itself, so each number has its' own little benefit, but I'm sorry, I'm not buying into the three is better than four, or three is better than two. They each have their own good thing, and I think you'll find that whatever works just works for other reasons, there's other things going on that's compelling that photograph to be better. You can shoot that tight shot and get that single animal. You can have two shots and have that nice relationship, or you can start having a very easily used small group or a larger group, or as large of group as you wanna have and it really doesn't matter in some cases. It's gonna be a good shot if it's a good shot for other reasons.

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