Shutter System
John Greengo
Lesson Info
6. Shutter System
Summary (Generated from Transcript)
The lesson discusses the different types of shutter systems used in cameras, including the leaf shutter system and the focal plane shutter system. The leaf shutter system is used in point and shoot cameras and some larger cameras, and it consists of shutters that open and close inside the lens. It is a simple and lightweight system that allows for quiet operation and synchronization with flash at different shutter speeds. However, it requires lenses to be designed around the shutter system and can add to the cost of the lens. On the other hand, the focal plane shutter system is the most popular and is used in SLR cameras and mirrorless cameras. It consists of two curtains that open and close in front of the sensor, ensuring an even exposure across the entire sensor. This system allows for greater flexibility in lens design and offers proven reliability. However, it can cause vibration in the camera and has limitations when it comes to flash synchronization. The lesson also briefly mentions the electronic shutter, which is a newer feature that eliminates mechanical movement in the camera and offers silent operation. It can cause distortion in moving subjects but is expected to improve in future camera models. Q&A:
What is the leaf shutter system and where is it commonly used?
The leaf shutter system consists of shutters that open and close inside the lens, and it is commonly used in point and shoot cameras and some larger cameras.
What are the advantages of the leaf shutter system?
The leaf shutter system is lightweight, quiet, and can synchronize with flash at different shutter speeds.
What are the limitations of the leaf shutter system?
The leaf shutter system requires lenses to be designed around it, which can add to the cost of the lens.
What is the focal plane shutter system and where is it commonly used?
The focal plane shutter system consists of two curtains that open and close in front of the sensor, and it is commonly used in SLR cameras and mirrorless cameras.
What are the advantages of the focal plane shutter system?
The focal plane shutter system offers proven reliability and allows for greater flexibility in lens design.
What are the limitations of the focal plane shutter system?
The focal plane shutter system can cause vibration in the camera and has limitations when it comes to flash synchronization.
What is an electronic shutter and what are its advantages?
An electronic shutter eliminates mechanical movement in the camera, offers silent operation, and is more reliable.
What are the limitations of an electronic shutter?
An electronic shutter can cause distortion in moving subjects and has limitations when it comes to flash synchronization.
Lessons
Class Introduction
23:32 2Photographic Characteristics
06:46 3Camera Types
03:03 4Viewing System
22:09 5Lens System
24:38 6Shutter System
12:56 7Shutter Speed Basics
10:16 8Shutter Speed Effects
31:57Camera & Lens Stabilization
11:06 10Quiz: Shutter Speeds
07:55 11Camera Settings Overview
16:12 12Drive Mode & Buffer
04:24 13Camera Settings - Details
10:21 14Sensor Size: Basics
18:26 15Sensor Sizes: Compared
24:52 16The Sensor - Pixels
22:49 17Sensor Size - ISO
26:59 18Focal Length
11:36 19Angle of View
31:29 20Practicing Angle of View
04:59 21Quiz: Focal Length
08:15 22Fisheye Lens
12:32 23Tilt & Shift Lens
20:37 24Subject Zone
13:16 25Lens Speed
09:03 26Aperture
08:25 27Depth of Field (DOF)
21:46 28Quiz: Apertures
08:22 29Lens Quality
07:06 30Light Meter Basics
09:04 31Histogram
11:48 32Quiz: Histogram
09:07 33Dynamic Range
07:25 34Exposure Modes
35:15 35Sunny 16 Rule
04:31 36Exposure Bracketing
08:08 37Exposure Values
20:01 38Quiz: Exposure
20:44 39Focusing Basics
13:08 40Auto Focus (AF)
24:39 41Focus Points
17:18 42Focus Tracking
19:26 43Focusing Q&A
06:40 44Manual Focus
07:14 45Digital Focus Assistance
07:35 46Shutter Speeds & Depth of Field (DOF)
05:18 47Quiz: Depth of Field
15:54 48DOF Preview & Focusing Screens
04:55 49Lens Sharpness
11:08 50Camera Movement
11:29 51Advanced Techniques
15:15 52Quiz: Hyperfocal Distance
07:14 53Auto Focus Calibration
05:15 54Focus Stacking
07:58 55Quiz: Focus Problems
18:54 56Camera Accessories
32:41 57Lens Accessories
29:24 58Lens Adaptors & Cleaning
13:14 59Macro
13:02 60Flash & Lighting
04:47 61Tripods
14:13 62Cases
06:07 63Being a Photographer
11:29 64Natural Light: Direct Sunlight
28:37 65Natural Light: Indirect Sunlight
15:57 66Natural Light: Mixed
04:20 67Twilight: Sunrise & Sunset Light
22:21 68Cloud & Color Pop: Sunrise & Sunset Light
06:40 69Silhouette & Starburst: Sunrise & Sunset Light
07:28 70Golden Hour: Sunrise & Sunset Light
07:52 71Quiz: Lighting
05:42 72Light Management
10:46 73Flash Fundamentals
12:06 74Speedlights
04:12 75Built-In & Add-On Flash
10:47 76Off-Camera Flash
25:48 77Off-Camera Flash For Portraits
15:36 78Advanced Flash Techniques
08:22 79Editing Assessments & Goals
08:57 80Editing Set-Up
06:59 81Importing Images
03:59 82Organizing Your Images
32:41 83Culling Images
13:57 84Categories of Development
30:59 85Adjusting Exposure
08:03 86Remove Distractions
04:02 87Cropping Your Images
09:53 88Composition Basics
26:36 89Point of View
28:56 90Angle of View
14:35 91Subject Placement
23:22 92Framing Your Shot
07:27 93Foreground & Background & Scale
03:51 94Rule of Odds
05:00 95Bad Composition
07:31 96Multi-Shot Techniques
19:08 97Pixel Shift, Time Lapse, Selective Cloning & Noise Reduction
12:24 98Human Vision vs The Camera
23:32 99Visual Perception
10:43 100Quiz: Visual Balance
14:05 101Visual Drama
16:45 102Elements of Design
09:24 103Texture & Negative Space
03:57 104Black & White & Color
10:33 105The Photographic Process
09:08 106Working the Shot
25:29 107What Makes a Great Photograph?
07:01Lesson Info
Shutter System
Next up we wanna talk about the different shutter systems that are used in the different cameras. There's a system called the leaf shutter system, which is used on the point and shoots and some of the larger cameras as well. And what this is is a couple of shutters that kinda shaped like leaves that open and close right inside the lens. It's a very simplistic system. And it's very small, it's very lightweight. And we can take a look at the cross-section of the way a point and shoot camera works. Now remember when you point your camera at something to take a photo, you can see what's going on, which means the shutter has to be open. All right, so let's get our shutter in there. So it's open to start with. And then when you press the shutter release to take a photo, what's gonna happen is it has to close. The sensor is then prepped for actually capturing the image. The shutter then opens, captures the image, and then closes again, and then you wanna see to take the next shot, so it needs...
to open again. And so there's a lot of opening and closing when it takes a photo here. And this shutter system has to be put into the lens and the optical designers who design the lens, they can't put anything near the shutter. They gotta like no, you can't put that lens here, we're working the shutter here. And so it does compromise the lens design a little bit, but it simplifies it in other ways 'cause now you don't need that shutter in the body. And so you'll see this on point and shoots, some medium format, as well as large format cameras. And so, simple, very, very quiet, and it can synchronize with flash at all different shutter speeds. We'll talk more about that in the lighting section. But it's something that's a bit of an advantage for them. The problem is that you need to design lenses around this, and now you need to buy a shutter every time you buy a lens. And that can be a little bit, add, that can add to the cost of the lens, and so that's not what most camera systems do. As I said, some of the higher-end systems, medium format, large format will do that because the cameras are so big, they can't have shutters that big. They can make them much smaller and put them in the lenses. So it's just a different type of system that solves a particular type of problem. The most popular system for all the cameras that we've been talking about and will continue to talk about in this class is the focal plane shutter. Which means there is a shutter opening right near the focal plane of that particular camera. In an SLR camera, we talked about your viewing system here, and as light comes into the sensor, goes through the lens, the mirror goes up, light's gonna come in towards the sensor, but it can't quite get there yet. It needs to get past the shutter unit. And there are actually two parts to the shutter. It's like a curtain. There's a first curtain and a second curtain. And what happens when you actually take a photo is that the set of blades, these are four lightweight metal blades, will drop away, exposing light to the sensor, and then the second curtain will come in and block everything off. It uses this two-curtain system rather than a one-curtain system that would open and close so that every pixel is exposed for exactly the same amount of time. You get an even exposure across the entire sensor. And then the system needs to reset, and then the mirror will come back down so that you can view the next image. But it needs to go through this every time you shoot a photo, and this is the way it works on SLRs and mirror-less for the most part. Now you can see, in a very fast shutter speed, the way it does it is it scans the image on. Now, you would think that this might have a problem with subjects that move really quickly but this scanning happens very, very quickly so it's not really an issue. I suppose you could force yourself into a situation to make it an issue, but this is how the camera works at high shutter speeds. It's essentially scanning that light on that sensor during that 1/8000th of a second, for instance. And then the mirror returns, and you get to see what's going on. So the SLR system, the focal plane shutter system here. This is a proven technology. They know how to work with this, make it work quick and very, very reliable. It simplifies the lens construction 'cause now they can do whatever they want in the lens and they'll just worry about the shutter in the body itself. There is a limitation because that sensor has to be completely clear when the flash fires as to when you can fire your flash and so synchronization will be a key topic when we get into the lighting and flash section in this class. And that shutter movement, up and down up and down up and down, causes a little bit of vibration in the camera. And so a lot of the new SLRs now have silent shutter options, which allows you to use an electronic shutter we'll talk about in a moment so that there's no movement in the cameras at all. If you're doing a high-magnification, close-up shot, any sort of vibration might cause a blurriness of the photo. And so, just another tool for solving a problem. With a mirror-less camera, the focal plane shutter works slightly differently and that's because we don't have the mirror in there for viewing system. We're using the actual sensor for viewing. So if we're to take a close look at the sensor in this case, here's what's happening with the focal plane shutter in a mirror-less camera. To start with, the shutter is natively open, 'cause you have to have light coming into the sensor so that you can see to compose your photograph. When it's time to take a photo, the shutter needs to close so that the sensor can be prepped. Now the sensor is ready. Here's your exposure, you're taking the photo. And then the second shutter comes in, closes it, but then it needs to open again so that you can see the next shot. And so there's a little bit of movement going on in there and long term, these shutters are going bye-bye. We're not going to be seeing these forever. There's a lot of mechanical things that are going on in here. Not really a huge problem, but it's kinda getting in the way of some other things that we might wanna do. And so, here's how it would look if you could see the sensor straight on. Mirror-less camera has both shutters open. Closes to preps the sensor. We're now collecting the image. And on some of the early mirror-less cameras, there was a problem because that shutter was getting out of the way so quickly, it caused a vibration right when the camera was recording an exposure. And so a lot of the cameras have now used gone to an electronic shutter to start off the exposure and then they use a mechanical shutter to finish it. And so there's a lot of technology going on in the cameras in this case and so if we could see the pixels. I've enlarged them here to make them easy. Shutter opens, we let the vibrations settle out, and then the camera basically scans the image on, recording the image one line at a time as quickly as it can, and then closing the shutter again at the tail end. Different cameras work in different systems. I can't speak universally to all the different systems because it's different and it's constantly changing all the time. One of the newest features that has come out is the electronic shutter. And we first saw this with, I'm trying to remember which camera, I think it was the Canon 40D that had an electronic front curtain shutter. And the funny thing is, looking back on it, they never told anyone about this. They had this great new piece of technology, and I was just talking with a couple photographers and they're like yeah, did you notice this? Yeah, I notice how this was working. It's like, I think they did this. And then we did some testing and like, they did this and they didn't even tell us. And it's this great new feature. What happens is that it would open up the shutter, and then it would electronically start, and then it would close it with the curtain. And this was really beneficial so in that there was no movement before the picture was taken in the camera. There was nothing moving which means the camera stayed perfectly still. And in some high-magnification situations, every little bit of movement might be a problem. Someday, very soon, we're gonna get completely rid of these mechanical devices in the camera. And what's gonna happen is we're gonna have an electronic shutter. A lot of the cameras have options to turn this on right now and just not use the mechanical shutter. And what it's doing is it scans very quickly from top to bottom or bottom to top, just turns on those pixels, records that light, goes to the next line and it currently, because of the CMOS technology we're using, it can't turn everything on and everything off. Actually, the CCDs used to be able to do this that we used in cameras. And I remember back on the Nikon D70, you could actually do this. But they've gone to CMOS because of a variety of reasons we're not gonna get into right now. But this is currently where we are right now and the limitation is this scanning process. And either, they're gonna speed it up so it's not a difference, or they're gonna come up with a new piece of technology that just turns everything on and everything off at the same time. But the scanning is what people in video call the jello effect. And so as you move your camera back and forth, this is what a standard grid pattern looks like as you move it really quickly. If a car is driving quickly down the street and you're following it, those buildings in the background appear to be leaning. They're not actually like that, and that's because you were moving the camera as it was shooting. If you hold the camera still, and you have a cyclist ride past you, take a close look at those wheels. Do they seem a little egg-shaped to you? And that's because the cyclist was moving, and it was scanning the image one line at a time. And so it doesn't work real well with moving subjects. This is gonna change, and I know it's gonna change, because it's already started to change, and I don't like to call out individual cameras, but for right now, the Sony A9 is the only camera in the market that can shoot with an electronic shutter, shooting high-speed action with virtually no distortion. It's small enough that I don't think really anyone's gonna have a problem with it, 'cause I've done some testing with some skateboarders and some really fast movement with the camera. But it scans fast enough, it's not a problem. And so we're gonna see this more and more on as cameras come around. So, the electronic shutter. No vibration, silent, more reliable, less moving stuff in the camera. So there's some good things to think about here. Moving objects are currently distorted. That is going to change, I think very quickly on the next round of mirror-less cameras that come out. There is some limitations on flash. We'll see how they deal with that going forward. Um, but probably the biggest thing is no more click. I used a silent camera I mean this just, uh, you know, where's that sound that you know? Um, imagine, I don't play golf, but could you imagine golf with no sound hitting the ball? You know, golfers, I'm sure, you know, really click into that click. When you get a good hit it sounds like a good hit. But just, yeah, great hit, it feels like you're playing an electronic game or something. And so, we'll have to add in really high-quality clicks and maybe, maybe I'll start a company that makes after market clicks that you can download and add to your camera and you want the Gringo click in your camera. It's the classic clicks or something. So those are the different shutter speeds that you can have in your camera. And so some different options in there. Let's check with questions. Kenna. Uh, question one, back when we were talking about the leaf shutter system. This is from Photo Maker, said, so with the leaf shutter system, you're not constrained to a 1/250th of a second for flash sync? That is correct and that 1/250th is misleading 'cause not everyone has 1/250th of a second. And this is one of the reasons why professional photographers will often use a medium format camera. For instance, a Mamiya system and I'm not sure if I think the Hasselblad system may be doing this as well. They offer a number of lenses and focal plane shutters, so you can use the shutter in the body, or you can get leaf shutters in the lens so that you can flash sync at a thousandth of a second or two thousandth of a second and it enables photographers to work with lighting equipment in bright lighting conditions so that they can control their depth of field. It's all problem solving, and it just solves the problem of using flash under bright light conditions. Now, none of the major manufacturers like Nikon and Canon make leaf shutter lenses that work on their cameras. It's typically medium format and higher-end cameras, as well as some of those point and shoots. Great, thank you. And then, from Dijon Style, can, so did you say that you can or can't use a flash with the electronic shutter? So electronic shutter is a little tricky on using flash and it's gonna depend on the system and so I don't wanna issue an answer 'cause I think it's gonna change over time and it's different from camera to camera, but on many systems right now you have to have your camera in the mechanical system. There are some cameras where you, if you put it in the electronic system, for electronic shutter, the flash options are grayed out and you can't get to them. And so it's on one of those areas, they're working on that right now on many of the systems.
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