Text Positioning with Q&A
Jason Hoppe
Lessons
Adobe® InDesign® Overview
23:46 2Adobe® InDesign® Basics
19:23 3Menu Customization
41:25 4Formatting Type
20:45 5Formatting Paragraphs
27:05 6Text Positioning with Q&A
22:18 7Glyphs Panel and Spellcheck
22:19Containers and Shapes
37:20 9Lines and Custom Strokes
17:43 10Object Placement and Duplicates
15:24 11Smart Guides and Alignment
28:09 12Text Wrap and Direct Selection
27:28 13Color Panel, Stroke & Fill
34:34 14Text & Color Gradients
40:40 15Styles and Objects
15:49 16Links and Image Texture
26:09 17Pixels and Copy Paste
34:02 18Character Styles: Formatting
40:00 19Character Styles: Sub heads
40:38 20Character Styles: Custom Attributes
36:54 21Character Styles: Hammer Function
33:33 22Page Layout and Spreads
25:54 23Master Pages
31:09 24Auto Page Numbering
21:38 25Facing Pages
11:48 26Importing Text and Auto Flow
14:53 27Margins and Columns
14:46 28Style Mapping and Interactive PDF Export
28:35 29Tabs and Tables
16:32 30Headers and Footers
32:20 31Basic Interactive Elements
28:31 32Interactive Buttons
21:38 33Adding Video to PDFs
17:20 34Printing Preferences
15:48 35Custom Preflight Profiles and Exporting
22:48Lesson Info
Text Positioning with Q&A
along with text containers. We don't have to have a text container that is a rectangle or square. We can, because generally when we're putting text into something, we use our type tool and we simply draw the container. We can use any existing container, and I can use my container tool here. My frame tool and I can draw a rectangle or a circle or something like that, and I if I want text inside their Aiken, draw the container and use my type tool to simply click inside there. And then I can fill with placeholder text, and it will fill with my shape inside there, not a problem. We don't have to go ahead and draw a rectangle or square. That's pretty much what everybody does, because that's how he set text. In the rare instance, we will put it into an odd shaped container, but that gets into a whole different world of good, bad ugly design. Okay, but you can OK. A container is a container, and you can put anything that you want to inside that container, so don't feel that you can Onley dra...
w a circle or a square. Okay, now what I had said before, is that all the text goes into a container? Well, pretty much all the text. This is one exception where we don't have to put something inside a container, and that is when text wants to be on a path. So if you want to do text on a path, say we would draw a circle We wanna have text go around the circle here, I can take my circle and we're gonna get under drawing shapes here after lunch, draw my circle when I go to my type tool. Now, if I just choose my normal type tool and my click on it, it's always going to go inside my container. If I clicked and hold on my type tool, you will see I get type on a path, and this allows me to type on a line or around the shape rather than actually inside the container. So I have my type on a path tool, and my type on a path tool has. Is it'll dangling octopus, alien arms that come out of it, and the way I tell it to actually go on the path is that cross point where I get those little alien arms coming out. Once I cross the path there, you'll see that little plus show up in the cursor and that knows that I've landed and I click. And now I can have type on a path. Well, if I type it right there it is. Now all the shortcuts that I've done for type I can band a for selecting everything a shift command greater than or less than will do a point size. Now I can put type on a path, any path that doesn't matter what shape it is. If it's just a single line, I have to use my type on a path tool, get my little dangling alien arms so they touch the path. Click on there and I now know that that is active. Okay, so there is my type on a path now when we're dealing with a normal container here, zoom in or really close right here So you can see this little box right here at the beginning of the container is where my text link would come in. And this little corner right here is where my text would link out to another container because they're the largest boxes there. People think, Oh, I'm gonna grab right there because they're the biggest. When I'm trying to move the container, that's for text linking. So we're gonna go over here to this one right here, and I want to be able to go in, and I want to move this around. The reason why I have to actually zoom in on my screen is because these little items get really small. So I have The essence is basically the start and the stop of my type. So when I'm in a container here, I've got the start and stop of my type being right here on the container. There's my start. There is my stop when I'm a path right here, Then I have to control the start in the stop. And I've gotta zoom in really close to show you this because it's very, very, very small. So click on the path right here and I want to do is I want to move. My started my stop points so I could move my type along the path. Your first reaction would be grabbed right on those big handles, right? Those aren't handles. Those of the text blinking Okay, So get a pay attention to the cursor here. When I hover over those lines and the start in the stop or actually right on top of each other here, there's virtually no differentiation. What differentiates them is when I go over with my cursor, you'll see that line. You'll see that right? And that's gonna be the start of my left end edge. And the type is going the direction that the arrow is pointing. If I click on that and I pulled that allows me to control that. Don't click on those those air not handles. Okay, those are the ejector button. So I have to click on my handles right here, and I can move that all around, and that will allow me to move the type around my path as I go. If I get too close to the end here or the end runs too soon into my type, I get that exact same overflow. They're saying that there's Mawr type on the path than I can actually see, So I would have to go in, and I could have moved that if I wanted to or adjust my type. I can always move that around so I can get that if I rotate that all the way over here and it runs into my stop will then have to open my stop to get that toe where it needs to be. Everybody wants to grab onto those handles there. Can't tell you enough. Those are not handles. So I can do that. And I can keep moving my type around. It's not a super fast process to go ahead and move it around. But again, I'm gonna zoom in really close in between my start and my stop right here is a midpoint. It has No, it has no bearing on how much type I actually have on the path. But in between I have this and it's this little teeny thumbtack and only shows up halfway between the beginning and the ends there. And you only find it by looking really close. And is this little teeny vertical line. And when I click on this, I call this my thumb tack right here to get my little up arrow. What this allows me to do is if I grab onto this is like a joystick, and I can actually rotate everything all together. So I'm not fighting the start in the stop portions. I could just grab on this and I can rotate everything there if I stay on the outside of my container. When I click on that little thumbtack right there, all my type will stay on the outside. If I click on this and I dragged my cursor inside or into on the other side of the line, it's gonna flip everything inside my container. And this freaks people out because they're dragging along here and in and out, and they keep slipping in and out. And it's like, you know, I was doing it, and then it flipped on the inside because you brought your cursor to the inside of your container sometimes is very hard to find, which is why I have to go in and actually do that, like massive Zoom on screen here so you can find it because the bigger it gets, are you bigger? You blow it up, the smaller that thing gets really frustrating. Okay, so it's there. If you want to control your type on a path, options going to a tight menu and we have type on a path we have our type of the path options, and this allows us to go in and do the Rainbow Effect or the skew or the three D ribbon and a whole bunch of other horrifically tragic things weaken. Flip them if we want to. All that. Now, this falls under the category of Just because you can doesn't mean you should. But I'm not gonna deny you showing you these features. So, yes, if you want to go ahead and do that, you can. However, it's up to you. So that's under type on a path. Options. Cool. Ah, question from me out. What if I want it? Can I do graphics? Can I attach a graphic as a frame? Not Yes, you can, Actually. And what we can do is, um, when we have, when we have graphics, they're kind of like in line graphics. So we're gonna get to that in a bit. Will probably do that right after lunch, But yes, you can. You can actually put these on the path as part of the type. It isn't actually type, but cool and raise Island would like to know. Can an existing text container Shapey change like automatically to a square or yes, it can. And we'll show you that as well. And that's gonna be under your object menu, where you can go ahead and convert your shape to any oh, gracing one right there. Perfect. Thank you. And we're gonna do that when we get into drawing containers and such, so, type on a path. Doesn't matter what it is. Convey an open container. You know, just a single line or closed container. Those of the basic items. They're flipping it by grabbing a joystick and flipping it out and then just grabbing a joystick all long and again. You got to make sure you watch your cursor so you can find out what it is that you do to get your type there and then just like your container in turn off your border and talk about all about borders and fails to get to that point this afternoon. So there's a type inside a container we can do type on a path as well, and I'll just show you if I go in, they just draw a normal path here. I can take my type on a path tool. Click there, and there's my type on a path and it flows along. I can control wherever it starts or stops and how it works by again going into my selection tool. And there's my little single little handle right there So I can pull that long and I can justify this left, right or center based on here so that could be in the center. That could be right. Justified How are we want to do it so I don't have to have type all inside a container. This is the one exception where the type actually resides on the path rather than in the container itself. So fun stuff with type as you go through. Um, so we've got containers we've got type on a path, type on a very basic line there, draw any type of container type, can go into any existing container that you want to just draw, and you are ready to rock and roll. Now, some of the other basic things that we have to deal with type one of them is going in and actually choosing the color of the type. We float all the copy and we've had all this information. But if you want to go in and change the color of your type. Quite simple. All we have to do is fill in placeholder text. Go in. They can select my copy here by default. The text is always black, not a problem. So if I go under my character formatting controls could go all the way over to my type. And I actually have my little tea right here, which shows may the actual type color and I connection. Click on that call up my color panel. We're all about color as well, and I can simply click on that, which allows me to change whatever type I have selected to a different color. If I want to have white type on a black container, I can select my type and I can make that type paper or White and Aiken set the container to be a different color works out quite well. Do you have any more questions over there? Jim, We dio you know, I'd like to this one from Eric J. It's It's not 100% on topic but wanted to know. Is there a way to default? Override Microsoft Word settings when importing the text into an in design documents. Oh, absolutely. And we're going to go through that whole thing when we place and flow, and we do our auto re flow, but that is a very important thing. And yes, a lot of times you will get a document that somebody has written and you want to flow the copy in, and there's a lot of idiosyncrasies and a lot of really bad habits, and you want to go in there, clean it up, But you want to intercept those before you bring them into the in design document. The answer is, Oh, yeah, we've got We've got the decontaminate er great. And then me, aka would like to know you can hide the path right on the oh, absolutely, and the path is nothing more than a stroke on their dinner. When we get into Phil's and strokes, you can simply just turn that stroke off. You do not need to see the path that it's on. A lot of times, people will go in and they'll size their copy. Normally, they will take their type tool. They'll select it, and they'll use their shift command plus and minus two sides. It other times people will say, You know what? I've got this space here and here is my text container. And you know, I need to make my container this big and have all my copy fill into this space so I could make my container larger and then go in and set my type larger to fit that. Or here's a shortcut that will size the container and the type all at once primarily used for sizing pictures. But every once in a while somebody has a headline. It's just like, you know what? I want to make this headline bigger or I want to make something larger And here's what I can dio So my text containers here. I want to take my headline right here. And if I make it bigger, I have to then make my container larger and my headline larger. But what I want to do is I just want to take and I want to scale my container and my headline to fix the fifth the size of my box. So if I hold down my shift in my commands G on a shift command click. This will allow me to scale my container and all the contents inside, so I can always increase the size of my container manually selected. All then use my shortcuts to make the type larger. But a lot of times I need my text just to fit a certain area. And if I need a smaller headline shift command that could make that smaller, it makes the container smaller as well as the type. It's a great way to fit headlines or areas just to fit the entire space. And I love that because so many times, if you have a container to certain width and then you use, use your shortcuts and it makes it a bit too big. And then part of the type falls often slightly too small. Make your container so it fits right to it. And we do that by, of course, going in and double clicking on the bottom handle. Snaps it right to your container right there. And when you've got that then shift command clicking poll will allow you to go in and set that scale everything all at once. That's a great feature and really easy thing. It's one that I overlooked cause I use all the time, and I don't even think about that when I do it, it just simply go in. But I do it all the time, huh? So one more thing that I want to show you when it gets into a little bit more fine type working here. And this is something. When you get really into working within design, when I have copy inside my paragraphs here, I'm gonna put in a few paragraphs, returns to kind of break them up. I see my text container, and I see this particular paragraph has a fair amount of space here at the end of these lines. And this one seems to break pretty good. And I know that I don't want to have hyphenation on, so I select everything and I go to my control bar in my paragraph formatting turn off all my hyphenation. I look and I see some of these spaces right here, and I want to go in, and I want to manually control the lines so that I can kind of Kern or track everything slightly tighter or looser to make. So I don't have what these what's called text rivers where I get this really long, you know, kind of undulating sides here. So what I'd like to do is I'd like to select my line here, and I want to bring everything and I just want to track it and ever so slightly closer. So I just hold down. My option can do option left and they kind of track everything back together, and I bring that in. That's like, you know, this is really weird because it's like it's got all that space And why isn't filling the space right here? Well, something that's very interesting and in design, that's a helpful feature that really isn't helpful. And you can go ahead and you can choose. And this is hidden at the very far end of your control bar. They have what's called Adobe Paragraph composer. They'll be paragraph composer is going to trying to go in, and it's going to try to flow the copy and best it possibly can inside the container. And this is fine if you just flow the copy in and you don't do any manual current in our tracking. When you try to do manual koerting or tracking on these things, it kind of resists what it is you're doing because it's trying to help you out. So a lot of times you can go in and you can begin Teoh do a line right here and then all of a sudden, other lines up above will begin to re flow. And it's like just like it did The first line just re flowed because I was, you know, tracking this a little bit tighter. It's like, Wait a second. I didn't want this first and second lines to change their Why is everything changing? Why do I feel like I have this talking paper clip? You know what? I just want to go on to do this. So this is a really frustrating thing when you get into a little bit more composition. Default is the adobe paragraph. Composer Theodore B single line composer allows you to go in and freely work with this without any other interference. So if I want to take this line and I want to track down a little bit further, or if I've got you know, certain letters that I want to bring up or I want to bring down to another line right here, I can select those and I can say, OK, I'm gonna track these in little bit tighter and it fits. It doesn't re flow all the rest of the paragraph and rejigger everything. It just simply lets you work with lines that you want track everything a bit tighter or looser to help to clean up these little portions. Right here. I want to track this out ever so slightly, maybe tracked us in and just balance these things out a little bit more. I can do that without all this extra assistance going on. It's not a commonly known thing, but it resides here of the end of your control bar. And that's the single line composer. It just gives you a little bit more control over it as well. One more thing along the lines with a single line composer is when we're talking about current ing or tracking here. The koerting that we have here. We've got the difference between optical and metrics and metrics. When the font is actually created by the designer, there are certain mathematical equations of how every single letter is gonna fit together when a Q goes next to 10 there's a certain amount of space already programmed into the thought lower case uppercase and all these have actual mathematical measurements on how they're going to fit Well, in some cases, you still need to do a little tweaking. So in design went in and they put in an optical section where it will actually go in, and it will optically make them look a little bit better than what the fought was actually delivered with. When you do that to see that ever so slight shift on screen, and in many cases if you find a font that you like. But the spacings just little bit off going there under the um turning and just said it the optical and see if that's going to do a little bit better for you with the type just these little nuances that really help that optical. And then turning off the adobe paragraph composer and turning it into full manual with just a single line composer, you have the control. There's no help. It's all you. Those are a couple things that may help you out when you're laying out. Copy in your document. Several text boxes. Um, and I forgot to turn off auto hyphenate What would be the quickest way to go through and knocked that out well with the auto with the auto hyphenate, when you have everything flowed into your copies how in design does this is? You have to literally select paragraph by paragraph because it will allow you to turn and turn on hyphenation from paragraph paragraph. You can go in to the very end of your control bar right here when you have your type selected and go in here and we have hyphenation so general hyphenation Overall, the hyphenation button in the control bar is there for specifically selecting paragraphs. When you go and you control your hyphenation from the little cheese grater at the end of your control bar, you can then go in and you can turn off your hyphenation settings overall. So if I just have my type tool selected here and I go in, then my hyphenation can be set so that I have no hyphenation whatsoever. Now, if you're type tool is in your type in here on the page, your hyphenation is going to go ahead and pick up the attributes here. Right now, I just have my type tool selected with no type. Go to my hyphenation This is one of the places where I can go in and I can turn off the hyphenation globally. By doing this, I don't have anything selected. I just have the type tool selected now the hyphenates turned off. Now, from here on out, I will not have hyphenation from everything that I dio Now. Will it be globally in terms of that box or are just that box if or what happens if I have multiple boxes that are not linked? This This will go ahead and shut it off for everything. If you have this container selected here and you have all the all the contents elected and you choose the hyphenate, it's on Lee for this container. But have that not selected and just have your type tool selected. Now you will do a global setting to turn off all hyphenation. That's one of the places the other places when we create paragraph styles where we can go in and we can set all of our styles. So all the type that we always dio has no hyphenation on it. Fantastic thing. And Jason Sebastian would like to know if you have a document closed and you turn off hyphenation. Is there a way to just, like, always have it permanently off? Oh, absolutely. And that's Dad, she said. Is a preference again. You close out of everything I have been designed right here, and you cannot to go into you control bar and just turn off the hyphenation right there. So nothing hyphenates, nothing could be open. Or you go under your cheese grater at the end of your control bar, go into hyphenation and then turn it off there. When you do that, you'll notice that it also turns off in your control bar. So you can do that globally as well. Just make sure that nothing is selected. Now that will only work for the files that you create from here on forward, it will not change any of the files that you open. This is a preference that you set in the application. So on Lee, from new ones here on out, will not change any of your old documents.
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kasmath
So happy to be able to watch and buy a class from Jason Hoppe!! I absolutely love his classes and have learned so much from him. I have inDesign and am saving up to buy all of his classes, just wish he had one on Dreamweaver! I appreciate the videos put into smaller segments so I can watch whenever I can fit in a few minutes. He is funny, smart and knows so much about the programs and makes them easy to understand. I plan on telling my other graphic students about his classes because they are that good!! Thanks a bunch Jason for doing these....
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